Tutorial: value a company that has no profits
You are not valuing profits. You are valuing an assumption about margins that do not exist yet. Write the assumption down.
Put a defensible number on a business that has never made money.
How value a company that has no profits works, in one picture
The same argument as the text, as a chain. Each step is what makes the next one possible.
The order matters more than the maths
Cheapness is the last question. Ask it first and you produce a list of companies the market has given up on, and it is usually right.
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Understand why P/S is a fallback, not an answer
StatisticsWith no earnings the P/E does not exist, so people reach for price to sales. It answers a very limited question: what are you paying per pound of revenue? It says nothing about whether that revenue can ever be profitable, and a pound of software revenue at 85% gross margin is worth many times a pound of hardware revenue at 20%.
Comparing P/S across different business models is not analysis. It is a category error with a number attached.
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Start at gross margin, because that is the ceiling
FinancialsGross margin is the closest thing to a law of physics in a young company. It tells you the most this business could ever earn if every other cost went to zero. If gross margin is 30%, no amount of scale produces a 40% operating margin. Ever.
A company with a rising gross margin as it grows is discovering pricing power. One with a falling gross margin is buying revenue, and that revenue is worth very little.
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Forecast the business at maturity, and state every input
Valuation LabThe honest method: what revenue, at what operating margin, in what year. Then discount it back. Every input is a guess, which is exactly why you say them out loud instead of hiding them inside a multiple. A stated assumption can be argued with. A P/S of 30 cannot.
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Sanity-check the assumption against reality
If your mature margin is higher than any company in that industry has ever sustained, you have not been bold, you have made a mistake. If the implied revenue exceeds the entire addressable market, likewise.
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Then size it for the chance you are wrong
A valuation built on a margin that does not exist yet is a probabilistic bet, not a calculation. Treat it as one. The position size, not the model, is what determines whether being wrong is survivable.
You can state the mature revenue, the mature margin and the year your valuation depends on.
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You are not valuing profits. You are valuing an assumption about margins that do not exist yet. Write the assumption down.
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